[Noodles]

[Tyler88]

[jonny6767]

Rolling while high?"?!?!!?!? For real???!!!"

Sure fire way to be asked to leave our club. I mean, its just not good for practice.

[CWH]

[milkycereal]

Yooo what's with all the hate in this thread? Too many people on their high horse...I'm not a big smoker anymore but will burn on occasion. I find that smoking weed can make you get REALLY into whatever your doing, but it's hit or miss in this aspect. I would hate to have to rely on bud to have fun like that.

When I smoke nowadays after a few years of daily use, I find that weed directly conflicts with my bjj/life's goals. I get anxious, I get lazy, I eat ALOT, my performance suffers in the gym and on the mat. When I'm not high but have been smoking lately I feel burnt out and hazy.

Im probably going to quit for a while and really,focus on my athletisim. That being said I'm not opposed to people smoking and believe you shouldn't look down on someone who does.

[Growler]

[milkycereal]

[FightNight]

[underdog]

I've only rolled high once. I didnt notice anything.

Keep personal business out of the gym.

[BjjGinG540]

I love smoking funky exotic weed and rolling. i keep my cardio on point and my lungs don't even notice it. People can hate, but i'm too high to pay even see them.

[milkycereal]

[Cholio]

I like to do some PCP before I roll, feel like it helps with my takedowns. Or the occasional acid hit, really opens up your game when you just start screaming at the top of your lungs for no particular reason and clawing at the air, throws your opponents game off many times.

In all seriousness though, I would totally smoke weed IF it was legal, but as I may have a future career in probation I stay away of anything illegal and only do stuff that is legal in moderation, but regardless of it's effects on me I wouldn't subject someone else to it without them having a choice. In the same way weed makes bad movies good, my jiu jitsu could still be bad and I just perceive it to be better.

[sOz]

[Growler]

[irishman301]

Weed really is not a big deal. If it wasn't illegal, there wouldn't be so much controversy over the issue, but it is so there is.

The thing that kinda annoys me regarding the fact that weed is illegal is that it really is so much less harmful than alcohol. Alcohol is TERRIBLE for you....even not knowing anything about what is actually going on inside your body, strictly using how it makes you feel as a basis for judgement of how bad it is for you, one can say that alcohol is terrible for you.

I literally can't do anything when drunk....except "kick back and socialize"...and even than, I do and say stupid things...so it's not even good for that! If I have stuff that needs to done during the day, and I decide to have a beer or two....that stuff simply is not getting done...or at least not getting done well. Then there's the significant lack of coordination. Then there's the hangover....Using these things as my basis for judgement about how bad alcohol is, I can make the assumption that alcohol is terrible for you!!!

BUT alcohol is legal....so it's generally a socially acceptable thing to do.

Weed, on the other hand, does not really cause any of those problems that alcohol does. I can be extremely productive (with the addition of creative) while high. There is no hangover. There is no lack of coordination, no lack of basic motor skills, etc.... Of course there's the "It's bad for your lungs" issue, but then you have millions of people that smoke cigarettes, which is apparently no big deal as well because they sell them in stores.

But weed is illegal....so most of society considers it to be much worse than its' legal counterparts - alcohol and tobacco. I guess it's a matter of opinion, but as an ex-cigarette smoker (quit 5 years ago), and a social drinker and marijuana user, I personally think that the least detrimental of the 3 is the weed.

Now, as for the rolling while high argument. I personally think that rolling while high is EXTREMELY BENEFICAL for me. It causes me to relax and stay extremely calm, while still maintaining a clear mind so I can think my way through situations. Additionally, it adds a significant creative aspect to my game. I'm a musician as well, and the parallels are very clear to me....I try new things; I experiment with new things; Basically, I just view BJJ as one huge blank slate, and I am free to paint anything I want on that blank slate no matter how abstract or unorthodox it may be. This is exactly how I view the fretboard of a guitar as well. I have very good cardio, and I have not noticed any effects on my lung capacity that would cause me to ever consider quitting. In fact, I can roll for 15 - 20 minutes straight, without gassing out at all. In comparison to many others in my class, this is above average for my training partners.

But weed is illegal...so most would think that rolling high is bad. Understood...and that's why I keep it to myself when I smoke before class (which is usually 1 class per week).

Would I drink before rolling? HELL NO!!!! I can not learn or function properly even after just one single drink....I think most people feel the same way as well, which is good. If I know that I will be training, either lifting or BJJ, I will not even have one drink during the day until after all my training is done.

Back to marijuana though....Would I recommend that non-smokers start smoking weed before class? Absolutely not. In fact, I would never suggest for anyone who doesn't smoke to start smoking. I encourage people to live a healthy lifestyle with minimal pollutants to the body. But considering most people do engage in several harmful acts on a daily basis, I'm simply just one who will defend marijuana for those who choose to smoke. In my honest opinion it is really not that big of a deal. In comparison to all of the other things that humans freely expose themselves to that are legal such as alcohol, tobacco, stressful situations, fast-food, soda, unhealthy relationships, mind-polluting television shows, lack of exercise, etc.... Smoking marijuana on occassion really is on the lower tiers of "dangerous" and/or "unhealthy".

[ElGuero]

Smoking doesnt automatically make my jiu jitsu go up a certain level.

But it DOES relax me.....making me think more about technique as opposed to just spazzing.

it DOES help me be more creative and think of different alternatives to defend or counter or whatever it is needs to be done.

It helps me spot small windows of opportunity that without smoking, id be too stiff and mentally jumbled to see.

Oh and seeing as it speeds up brething and heartrate; i find myself breathing extremely comfortably and under control when i dont smoke

I know, i know. This stuff i should be doing anyways.
But seeing as im a low white belt. I find myself spazzing a lot and not learning or improving my game that way anyways.

Im not saying its good, or bad for YOU. But thats the reasons why I do it. I tell people 9/10 before a roll and not one person has had an issue. They just kinda laugh/ chuckle.

I thought it was weird cuz my instructor has said positive comments on my technique after a VERY "relaxed" session. Also other guys i roll with notice. (I apologize if i sound like im bragging)

[ElGuero]

I also tend to use less "brute strenght." Thus being less annoying to roll with? :/

Also notice being more flexible maybe due to body as a whole being more relaxed.

Maybe once i learn how to do these things on my own I'll stop smoking.....

Sorry i dont mean to make it sound like the best thing since sliced bread. But it has really helped small areas that add up and make me a better jiu jitsu player. *notice i said, "better jiu jitsu player," not "better at jiu jitsu."

[mickeyford]

[CodeRed]

I wouldn't agree with using weed to try to advance your game. That feels like cheating to me. I wouldn't grapple someone who smoked weed for both the safety reasons and hygiene reasons stated by others in the thread.

I'm also jumping on the "keep your personal business at home" opinion. If you wanna get high at home, that's your own business. Using anything other than sweat and training to get the advantage over me on the mats I feel goes against the respect that martial arts is all about.

Unfortunately I train at a eleventh Pleenet gym, so they all look up to Eddie and talk about him often. They almost regard him as like a Jimi Hendrix of jiu-jitsu, like he's some great pioneer of the sport. "Dude, he just smokes weed and grapples all day," they'll tell me. I usually just roll my eyes and go back to my drills.

Warning, the following message is highly pretentious:

[bsenka]