[mickeyford]

[mofo]

Hmmmm... I know a few guys that have very respectable jobs (6 figure incomes), families, nice homes, have a solid income, train daily, don't really drink, and do indeed light up. I would have never known they did if I hadn't been over their house to watch a UFC fight (I was visiting some friends down in San Diego) and then I was shocked how many guys do indeed (by the amount of guys that came out to the garage). Very low key about it. Don't advertise it. Don't ever smell like it (because they have good jobs, families, etc and don’t want the stigma of being known as a pot head) and are incredible on the mat. I mean, win medals at tourneys kinda good. Maybe it's just a Southern California thing.

I would never have guessed that they partake just from rolling with them. Or hanging out with them afterwards.

Yeah, there will be guys who can't handle their weed and reek of it and are just dumb about it. Kind of the same way there are people out there who can't handle alcohol and make asses out of themselves in the same way.

Personally, I'm indifferent about it. I'm more concerned about my own game and keeping it sharp. If somebody wants to burn and roll, as long as they don't smell, I don't care. To be honest, I’m more concerned about them having long and/or dirty nails or if their gi reeks of body odor. Now, if they had been drinking... no way.

By the way, most of my good friends that played water polo or were on the swim team in college burned the most bud. They claimed it expanded the oxygen levels in their red blood cells. I know, silly stoners, eh?

[jackjitsu]

[treoptika333]

[Vanilla Guerrilla]

[Tyler88]

[mofo]

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[treoptika333]

Allow me to get ahead of you before you get where you are going. No. I don't smoke weed and I never have. If anything that would make me More objective on the subject. Listen, I'm all for weed. I think it's great, no one smokes some grape ape and goes home and beats their wife and kids. I like that people on weed are generally mellow and calm, don't do much beyond eat cheetohs, and watch sponge bob. If that's your thing, then Great! Do it all you want, at home. Honestly, grow a full on farm in your backyard and smoke until you think you're blind. Just so long as it is at home. Don't bring it into an environment where you're un-justly making decisions for other people. I don't get loaded up on coke and expect you to "just be cool man" when I come into the gym. I expect you to extend the same common courtesy for me. I'm tired of all this bullshit pothead mentality of "weed is natural". So is alcohol fermentation, but plenty of people still manage to wrap their cars around trees or Other people's cars when they abuse it. I don't care What you think the difference is, if it impairs you, Do It At Home.

[TonyHubris]

This is a tough debate to have with people that don't know how many great athletes (especially BJJ athletes) smoke marijuana. The athletes who use it as a performance enhancer aren't smoking blunts and aren't necessarily using it prior to training - not everyone feels it as an implicit performance enhancer (like, say, roids or blood doping). They probably vaporize or eat it, or at worst use some type of water pipe. I can't name names, but a lot of you would probably squirt tears if you found out that some of your heroes are major stoners!!! I'm kidding, but honestly I hope that if you're thinking about using marijuana to enhance your training/recovery or training experience in general - to do your own research. If you're not sure about what something is going to do to your body, I think that's pretty reckless and you could end up with legal troubles depending on where you live. Not to mention the negative stigma attached to it; which is sad. Something PROVEN to be safe (physiologically) and can actually be beneficial to your body is compared to things like caffeine and alchohol (even worse, drugs like cocaine/meth/heroin). I hope people weigh the pros and cons and use responsibly if they believe it to be beneficial to them. Regular use of painkillers/opiates and "sleeping" pills is something I find to be much more dangerous to your body. Strange that if it's in a pill form, legal, and prescribed, that many believe it to be safe.

Here's an short article that was in Forbes about professional athletes and marijuana. For those interested. Nothing scientific, but interesting nonetheless.

[zenpanda]

[treoptika333]

[treoptika333]

[bma_mat]

[zenpanda]

[treoptika333]

[Vanilla Guerrilla]

A couple of the pro-weed posters here are missing the point of this thread's particular debate. It is not a debate on the justifiability of marijuana or the legalization of its use. This thread is about rolling while high on pot.

Facts. Marijuana slows your reflexes (reaction time) and dulls your senses.

When training jiu jitsu, if you crank an arm bar and the guy taps three times, you might miss all three taps and damage your training partner. Or you might feel the first tap but react too slowly, damaging your training partner. Or, you might do just fine. A drunk person might do just fine driving home without any accidents. That doesn’t make it okay. Driving drunk increases the risk of accidents, which often result in harming or killing others. Rolling on weed increases the risk of injuring your partners. Don’t do it. Smoke at home. That’s fine. Don’t come train until it’s out of your system.

[blackjack]

I support legalisation, but would flat refuse to roll competitively against anyone stoned or drunk.

This is a combat sport, people get hurt, I have seen people get seriously hurt at competitions, I would no more trust a stranger to roll competitvely against me than to let him drive car with me in it while he is stoned.

Plus if being stoned does impart some advantage in competition it is Cheating to use it just like any performance enhancer.

So your options are

1. Smoking weed does nothing to improve your BJJ and is usless.

2. Smoking weed improves your BJJ and thus is in the same catagory of cheating as any steroid.

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[mofo]