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 Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:28 am Post subject: |
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No, here is how it works.
The mesh basket is a shape like this: \__/
The bottom flat part has blades like a cheese grater, to slice up the fruits/veggies into pulp, and the sides of the basket are a very fine mesh. As the basket spins at some crazy fast speed, the centrifugal force forces the liquid out of the pulp and its collected and drained. The plup then tumbles upward and is slung into a collection container.
The single best tool for making veggie soup is a stick blender imho. |
Interesting, cheers again, perhaps I shall be making two purchases this month  |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 2:26 pm Post subject: |
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Just made a spinach, cucumber and ginger juice.
And to think that I was a Scotch guy before all this Jiu Jitsu nonsense.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I might get a juicer at some point, but for now I use my vitamix blender to make smoothies. I don't have any specific recipes though. Joe Rogan put me on to that kale shake he's always drinking. I don't have a set of common ingredients, I mainly try to hit up local farmers markets and buy whatever looks good. I always try to have some type of fresh berries and something green as a base. So blueberries and broccoli might be a base for a smoothie - then I'll add stuff like dried goji berries, EFA's, spinach, açaí, almond milk or hemp milk, a scoop of hemp protein (it disguises better than whey) or greek yogurt if I want it creamy. I usually make it in the morning so I don't worry about getting sugar from the berries, or honey if I use it.
Ok, that sounds disgusting. Lol, it's actually really good though.
I wonder why some people choose juicing over blending - or vice versa...? I understand the idea of the pulp being unnecessary, but I don't mind the extra fiber I get from my morning smoothie - I don't see why you wouldn't want that.
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| Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 8:41 pm Post subject: |
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I have the same juicer Vanilla. I love it. I make the Renergy juice often. If you haven't seen it yet, prepare for blood red urine with all the beets you used! lol
It scared the crap out of me the first time until I found out beet juice does that.
I mix up fruits and veggies all the time, but my favorite in the summer is watermelon juice. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:02 am Post subject: |
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Everyone that juices or wants to start juicing should watch this movie (Fat, Sick, Nearly Dead). Good documentary and really shows u the benefits of juicing along with exercise.
http://www.fatsickandnearlydead.com/ |
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Vanilla Guerrilla
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:51 am Post subject: |
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| mickeyford wrote: |
I have the same juicer Vanilla. I love it. I make the Renergy juice often. If you haven't seen it yet, prepare for blood red urine with all the beets you used! lol
It scared the crap out of me the first time until I found out beet juice does that.
I mix up fruits and veggies all the time, but my favorite in the summer is watermelon juice. |
Worse. Yesterday morning my sh*t was red and "bloody." I didn't panic though. My initial thoughts were, "Wait a sec...ah...the beets probably did this." Then I googled it and verified. lol
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parabellum
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 7:55 am Post subject: |
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| TonyHubris wrote: |
I wonder why some people choose juicing over blending - or vice versa...? I understand the idea of the pulp being unnecessary, but I don't mind the extra fiber I get from my morning smoothie - I don't see why you wouldn't want that. |
If I sat down and ate four apples and a banana, I'm pretty sure all that fiber would have some undesired affects on my system.
So, since I get plenty of fiber anyway, I juice most of my fruit. I think it tastes amazing, makes it easy to consume, and I can easily take it to go. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:35 am Post subject: |
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| parabellum wrote: |
| TonyHubris wrote: |
I wonder why some people choose juicing over blending - or vice versa...? I understand the idea of the pulp being unnecessary, but I don't mind the extra fiber I get from my morning smoothie - I don't see why you wouldn't want that. |
If I sat down and ate four apples and a banana, I'm pretty sure all that fiber would have some undesired affects on my system.
So, since I get plenty of fiber anyway, I juice most of my fruit. I think it tastes amazing, makes it easy to consume, and I can easily take it to go. |
I kinda lean toward the blending argument myself, I mean how much nutrition do you clean out of the juicer? I was brought up being told that the skin has a lot of the nutrition in fruits and veggies. I might stick the residue from the juicer in the fridge and throw it in my next batch of soup just to get that little extra bit of nutrition. Not meaning to be contrary here, it's just that juicing seems to miss a lot of nutrition, and I've not heard Rener or anyone else really articulate a case that it doesn't waste nutrition.
And the USDA recommends 25-30 grams of fiber daily, and apple is only 4 grams so 4 apples only get you about halfway to your daily fiber needs. If you juice those apples all you're getting is sugar water with a couple vitamins. And the sugars in juice will loosen up your system faster than fiber (at least that's been my experience with my little boy  ). Not to mention that's a lot of calories. |
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parabellum
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:39 am Post subject: |
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| bjjtkdgeek wrote: |
| parabellum wrote: |
| TonyHubris wrote: |
I wonder why some people choose juicing over blending - or vice versa...? I understand the idea of the pulp being unnecessary, but I don't mind the extra fiber I get from my morning smoothie - I don't see why you wouldn't want that. |
If I sat down and ate four apples and a banana, I'm pretty sure all that fiber would have some undesired affects on my system.
So, since I get plenty of fiber anyway, I juice most of my fruit. I think it tastes amazing, makes it easy to consume, and I can easily take it to go. |
I kinda lean toward the blending argument myself, I mean how much nutrition do you clean out of the juicer? I was brought up being told that the skin has a lot of the nutrition in fruits and veggies. I might stick the residue from the juicer in the fridge and throw it in my next batch of soup just to get that little extra bit of nutrition. Not meaning to be contrary here, it's just that juicing seems to miss a lot of nutrition, and I've not heard Rener or anyone else really articulate a case that it doesn't waste nutrition.
And the USDA recommends 25-30 grams of fiber daily, and apple is only 4 grams so 4 apples only get you about halfway to your daily fiber needs. If you juice those apples all you're getting is sugar water with a couple vitamins. And the sugars in juice will loosen up your system faster than fiber (at least that's been my experience with my little boy ). Not to mention that's a lot of calories. |
Yeah, I hear you on the nutrition. I guess I'm balancing the nutrition that I lose from the skin, against the fact that the skin is where most of the pesticides and scary stuff from the commercial agri-business growing cycle get stored, so I'm happy to lose a bit of vitamins from the skin in trade for feeling like I'm getting less scary chemicals.
I like to buy organic when I can, but often the selection isn't great and the prices are very high. |
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Vanilla Guerrilla
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:48 am Post subject: |
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For me it's simple. Blending, while it keeps all the fiber and the skin nutrition, creates a thick nasty mess that I don't want to down. Juicing creates a light, smooth, clear'ish juice that is easy to chug. I get fiber from other sources. And, too many of any number of nutrients can cause you to piss them all out and retain none of it.
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bjjtkdgeek
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:28 am Post subject: |
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| Vanilla Guerrilla wrote: |
| For me it's simple. Blending, while it keeps all the fiber and the skin nutrition, creates a thick nasty mess that I don't want to down. Juicing creates a light, smooth, clear'ish juice that is easy to chug. I get fiber from other sources. And, too many of any number of nutrients can cause you to piss them all out and retain none of it. |
I agree that blending a lot of things can turn out pretty gross, all I'll usually blend is some frozen berries (parabellum you might check these out, even organic ones are pretty cheap), maybe half an avacado, a couple scoops of protein (or greek yogurt) and milk, so they're pretty sweet and fruity, as opposed to a straight vegetable shake. I don't even usually do that, since I never feel like cleaning out my blender on my way out the door in the morning.
For veggies, I just eat them raw. Right now in my office refrigerator I've got half a cup of baby carrots, half a dozen raw Brussels sprouts, a good fistful of fresh green beans (which taste friggin awesome), and maybe 1 cup of broccoli heads. A lot of fiber? Yeah, but it seems like my body has adapted over the last couple of months eating like this so it doesn't cause any discomfort or excess gas. That's enough vegetables to fill a quart-size tupperware up, would that really make much juice in a juicer? And all that fiber makes me fell full for a long time, so I never feel like a trip to the snack machine in the afternoon. |
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parabellum
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| bjjtkdgeek wrote: |
| Vanilla Guerrilla wrote: |
| For me it's simple. Blending, while it keeps all the fiber and the skin nutrition, creates a thick nasty mess that I don't want to down. Juicing creates a light, smooth, clear'ish juice that is easy to chug. I get fiber from other sources. And, too many of any number of nutrients can cause you to piss them all out and retain none of it. |
I agree that blending a lot of things can turn out pretty gross, all I'll usually blend is some frozen berries (parabellum you might check these out, even organic ones are pretty cheap), maybe half an avacado, a couple scoops of protein (or greek yogurt) and milk, so they're pretty sweet and fruity, as opposed to a straight vegetable shake. I don't even usually do that, since I never feel like cleaning out my blender on my way out the door in the morning.
For veggies, I just eat them raw. Right now in my office refrigerator I've got half a cup of baby carrots, half a dozen raw Brussels sprouts, a good fistful of fresh green beans (which taste friggin awesome), and maybe 1 cup of broccoli heads. A lot of fiber? Yeah, but it seems like my body has adapted over the last couple of months eating like this so it doesn't cause any discomfort or excess gas. That's enough vegetables to fill a quart-size tupperware up, would that really make much juice in a juicer? And all that fiber makes me fell full for a long time, so I never feel like a trip to the snack machine in the afternoon. |
I do get organic berries, carrots, and ginger. Its the apples and a few other fruits that I have a hard time finding organic choices for, they are either crazy expensive (like $5/lb instead of $1.69/lb) or the selection is poor.
I eat a lot of avocados too, I really wish I had a good source of organic avocados. |
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bjjtkdgeek
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:45 am Post subject: |
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I do get organic berries, carrots, and ginger. Its the apples and a few other fruits that I have a hard time finding organic choices for, they are either crazy expensive (like $5/lb instead of $1.69/lb) or the selection is poor.
I eat a lot of avocados too, I really wish I had a good source of organic avocados. |
I hear you. I'll grab organic produce when it's on sale or something, but not habitually. It's just too expensive to justify for me, I mean pay my school dues or eat stuff that's marginally better for me. I'll take BJJ thanks lol...
Also here in middle TN we have lots of roadside farmers markets, so locally grown produce is easy to come by in the summer and fall. |
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Vanilla Guerrilla
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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You posted this in a new thread, I assume by accident. So I quoted it here to keep things organized.
| MadScientist wrote: |
My favorite juice combo is a green apple, carrots, and beets... Beets are one of those wonder veggies that have so many good things within them.
I don't own a juicer, so I usually hit up my local organic grocery store. I want to get a Juicer eventually but they are expensive, how much did you guys pay for yours? |
I only paid $99. It was the most expensive one at Walmart, but not that expensive when compared to other quality juicers. It's a reputable brand, though, and supposedly one of the best selling juicers.
So far it seems solid.
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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The short version is i got a brand new jack lalane juicer for $27.00. I had wanted to try one and it was too good to pass up.
On a side note, what type of oranges you guys use to make Oj. I've tried a few and they are all horrible. |
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Vanilla Guerrilla
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:52 pm Post subject: |
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The short version is i got a brand new jack lalane juicer for $27.00. I had wanted to try one and it was too good to pass up.
On a side note, what type of oranges you guys use to make Oj. I've tried a few and they are all horrible. |
Are you peeling the rind off first?
You have to peel off the rind, or it'll fill your juice with bitterness.
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parabellum
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Vanilla Guerrilla wrote: |
| master@tapping wrote: |
The short version is i got a brand new jack lalane juicer for $27.00. I had wanted to try one and it was too good to pass up.
On a side note, what type of oranges you guys use to make Oj. I've tried a few and they are all horrible. |
Are you peeling the rind off first?
You have to peel off the rind, or it'll fill your juice with bitterness. |
+1 same for lemons and limes.
Oh and mango, make sure to peel mango because the skin gives many people contact dermatitis. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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| parabellum wrote: |
| Vanilla Guerrilla wrote: |
| master@tapping wrote: |
The short version is i got a brand new jack lalane juicer for $27.00. I had wanted to try one and it was too good to pass up.
On a side note, what type of oranges you guys use to make Oj. I've tried a few and they are all horrible. |
Are you peeling the rind off first?
You have to peel off the rind, or it'll fill your juice with bitterness. |
+1 same for lemons and limes.
Oh and mango, make sure to peel mango because the skin gives many people contact dermatitis. |
If the skin gives people contact dermatitis, then how will leaving it on when it's juiced make a difference?
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| Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:45 am Post subject: |
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| Moonpaw wrote: |
| parabellum wrote: |
| Vanilla Guerrilla wrote: |
| master@tapping wrote: |
The short version is i got a brand new jack lalane juicer for $27.00. I had wanted to try one and it was too good to pass up.
On a side note, what type of oranges you guys use to make Oj. I've tried a few and they are all horrible. |
Are you peeling the rind off first?
You have to peel off the rind, or it'll fill your juice with bitterness. |
+1 same for lemons and limes.
Oh and mango, make sure to peel mango because the skin gives many people contact dermatitis. |
If the skin gives people contact dermatitis, then how will leaving it on when it's juiced make a difference? |
For most juicers, you are going to get small amounts of the skin in with the juice, whatever screen they sift or push the juice through is just not small enough to stop all particles.
If someone had a bad allergic reaction to the mango skin, it would suck, so I make it a point to skin the mango before I toss it into the juicer. |
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| Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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Nice. We've got the Breville IKON multi-speed. http://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/product.asp?SKU=14770267
Take one of those BB&B 20% off coupons you get in the mail to your local store to get the discount. If they don't have the item in stock they will order it.
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