Search

  • Sorry...You must register to activate searching



Post new topic   Reply to topic    Jiu Jitsu Forums Forum Index -> Jiu Jitsu Discussion->Human Weapon - new show
View previous topic :: View next topic  
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #61   
Quote:
And please define what soviet-mentality is.

Right, like you don't know... It's bloody hard to define something like that, people write books about it.

Quote:
If I remember correctly, the education of the soviet country in general is so much better than that of the "capitalist" countries, it's not even funny.

How did education get dragged into this? Soviet eduacation is overrated. It didn't give people practical skills and now tons of people who are well educated are unemployed because there are no jobs for them on the market. Besides, it's one thing to say that the education was good, and another to say that the students ended up well educated... Soviet education often would give people way more knowledge than they could retain. Basically, if you were very intelligent - it was great, if you weren't - you struggled to pass and forgot everything soon after the exam, because you never trully understood the material in the first place.
Send private message Blog  No rating
jackjitsu
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 16122
Location: Raleigh, NC

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #62   
off topic

Here we go again, this is gonna get locked down. You guys are gonna end up dinging each others posts with bad ratings as you escalate Laughing Cool it
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #63   
We are talking about a mentality. Mentalities come from upbringings. Educatino is a huge factor in someone's upbringing, if not the biggest.

Quote:
you struggled to pass and forgot everything soon after the exam, because you never trully understood the material in the first place.


And lol, you obviously know nothing about the soviet education system from that post.
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #64   
Ah, sorry, it's my fault this time. I couldn't help it. Smile
bma_mat
Quote:
And lol, you obviously know nothing about the soviet education system from that post.

I'm just being realistic. And besides, you couldn't have been studying under the Soviet education system.


Last edited by rediska on Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:13 pm; edited 1 time in total
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #65   
And just so you know, ask the average american teenager to name you 5 countries in africa, and I bet you that he will not be able to. That's a serious issue. I can, and most of my friends, could name you every single country in a given continent, given an empty atlas for reference.
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #66   
Hmmm, I wonder if I would be able to. Regardless, I don't see what you are getting at? Trying to prove Soviet superiority? Sorry, won't work on me. I know the arguments too well, and i can counter them too well. if you recall, we were discussing the fact that you had a Slavic, Soviet-influenced mentality. Do you deny that? By the way, when I say you do, I am in no way trying to bring you down or say that it's a bad thing.
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #67   
No, im asking for your definition of what a slavic-mentality is.
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #68   
A definition of slavic mentality, is, like I already said, very hard to come up with. It's generally just something that's understood.
Ditto
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #69   
And as in terms of what kind of mentality I have, I have a very realistic, logic based mentality. People like to talk too much with emotions, and not back it up with facts and logic.

And people like to run away from the truth too much, fearing them may offend someone, so they say things that are incorrect instead. If you want to avoid seeming rude at all costs, either don't comment on a contraversial theme, or comment in a truethfull, but carefull manner. Don't reply emotionally, when what you are saying is incorrect.
Send private message Blog  No rating
xfiles
2 thumbs up
2 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 783
Location: California

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #70   
the average "american" as you put it does that because most of the view point they get is the european view point. Furthermore, it is the view point of the united states. It is sad to have this point of view, thats why whenever I do teach I make sure to TRY to bring up other viewpoints. Ask my students to name a country outside of the Americas and they will not say Africa. They know that Africa is not a country. They will tell you that Africa is made up of many countries.

admin cat...im about to go off topic a tad.

Why do most people say americans when they refer to people from the United States of America? American refers to people in the Americas. That being said, you can call people from Chile, Canada, U.S.A., Mexico...etc.. Americans. I shall stop there. Dont want to upset the CAT hahaha. surrender

wasnt this the human weapon thread?
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #71   
Quote:
Why do most people say americans when they refer to people from the United States of America?


When I said american, I was not only refering to people from the U.S.A. Education in Latin america, at least from my experience, is basically the same.

Um, I'm guessing they use American to adress people from the U.S.A because people from the States call themselves americans. What should we call them, "unitedstatesnians" ?
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #72   
Quote:
wasnt this the human weapon thread?


Yea, went off topic when a girl on the forum said guys had an advantage over her physically, and someone told her she was wrong. I told that person she was right, and it went on from there.
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #73   
Sorry, but USA was formerly just Her Majesty's American Colonies. Then it acquired independence and became American States, instead of Colonies. Thus, the country doesn' have an actual name per se.
I simplified things a little, but that's the gist of it.
Send private message Blog  No rating
xfiles
2 thumbs up
2 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Posts: 783
Location: California

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #74   
call us/them united states citizens...or...they can call me PAPI..haha JK!!

yes, guys do have an edge over girls IF the guy is stronger than her. I find it, and I may be wrong, when two people know the same art it is the stronger and faster of the two that will have the edge.


HAHA i see how it went off topic now! thanks!
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #75   
That argument would have a point if someone in here could guarantee they won't collapse after a good knee to the belly. Laughing
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #76   
Quote:
That argument would have a point if someone in here could guarantee they won't collapse after a good knee to the belly.


Lost me here. What argument are you making reference to, and what about a knee on belly?
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #77   
She cited not being able to take a knee to the belly as evidence females were weaker than men. I'm just saying that without a ton of training a knee to the belly is going to be terrible regardless of sex.
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #78   
Either way though, in order for a woman to take a 230lb knee on belly withought effort, she has to train harder than a man her size to do the same.

Just genetically, men are built stronger. The man will develop the muscular power to withstand the pressure faster.
Send private message Blog  No rating
bma_mat
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 10666
Location: Somewhere

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #79   
And she was not talking about knee on belly, she was talking about taking knee strikes to the mid section, as in Muay Thai style.
Send private message Blog  No rating
rediska
3 thumbs up
3 thumbs up


Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Posts: 1060

PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote #80   
bma_mat
Quote:
"And she was not talking about knee on belly, she was talking about taking knee strikes to the mid section, as in Muay Thai style."

You should pay more attention - that's what I was talking about all along. I don't know what you were thinking when you read my post about holding pads for knee strikes - that I put a pad on my belly to prevent the opponent from crushing me? Laughing

Mat, you should know that the scientific principle is evidence --> conclusion, not conclusion --> begin desperately looking for evidence.
Quote:
"Either way though, in order for a woman to take a 230lb knee on belly withought effort, she has to train harder than a man her size to do the same."

I told you, it's quite irrelevant if this is or isn't the case. We aren't discussing the human species in general, we are discussing one representative of it. She may already be well ahead of you as far as core strength is concerned - you can't know. Saying that this is obstacle is caused mainly by her gender is incorrect - like I told everyone before, a good knee to the belly will probably suck for anyone here.
Send private message Blog  No rating
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Jiu Jitsu Forums Forum Index -> Jiu Jitsu Discussion
 
All times are GMT - 7 Hours
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Page 4 of 5


 


(c) JiuJitsuForums.com All rights reserved. Based on PhpBB

Jiu Jitsu T-shirts