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bma_mat 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:17 pm Post subject: |
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| But they also showed alot of fake elements. |
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Malissa

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I think they did pretty good on the Muay Thai segment of the show, showed lots of the old world style and gave good history on different sects of Thai fighting and styles. I also liked how they went into the camp out in the jungle and saw the demonstrations they provided them with. |
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vanguard 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't like the show at all. A real fighter would look at stuff and see that it's obviously BS. They didn't seem to my any attempt to separate the BS from the effective techniques. Also, I really would rather see them pit MT against the MMA fighter or wrestler. If they just have an elite level guy in each discipline compete with the rules they know so well against a guy that's trained for a week we'll watch the newbs lose every time.
Even a TKD guy will win if the goal isn't to do damage and there is no ground game. _________________ I can kick BJ Penn's ass in ping pong |
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dirt mcgirt 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Sounds pretty good.. what channel is it on? |
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vanguard 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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History channel _________________ I can kick BJ Penn's ass in ping pong |
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Malissa

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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You are right some of the moves were not something you could actually use in the ring, but they elaborated on which moves would not work in the ring and why. I am currently training in Muay Thai and BJJ so I did see lots of things in the show that would be beneficial to me and my training. They had some clips of actual fights in the show ...the one kid that got knocked out with an elbow to the temple area ...... Brutal !  |
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jackjitsu 3 thumbs up


Joined: 17 Oct 2006 Posts: 16132 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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The show mentioned the mauy thai fighters start at a very early age, 8 or so and retire around age 25 (due to all the abuse)
Thats a rough life. |
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rediska 3 thumbs up

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Yeah, well Muay Thai fighters fight every other week, so no wonder. Compare that to MMA artists, who fight three times a year. |
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dirt mcgirt 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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And to big name boxers who fight once a year. Twice if we're lucky...  |
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Malissa

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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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I cannot lie... I have yet to get used to the knees to the ribs and mid section its like having your liver knocked out sometimes...and you have to turn around and pick it up off the ground.  |
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bma_mat 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I've NEVER been kneed hard. Is it much different from a punch to the midsection. I take punches there very well. |
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Malissa

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| I have never been kneed hard like I have been getting with MT, I have belts in TaiKwonDo and KickBoxing but nothing prepared me for the knee strikes. You think oh you can do every kick in the book...knee strikes are nothing.... Yeah well when I got my first solid knee to my chest I could not get up for like 15mins and the bruise stayed for almost two weeks. |
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Malissa

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| Oh...what it feels like.... picture the tip of a wide baseball bat hitting you with the same force as a kick . I think the worst for me right now is the ribs, the stomach I have been trying to tense my abs on the strikes as much as possible when we spar to help with that but I am still a woman so it HURTS. |
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jackjitsu 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: |
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| Malissa wrote: |
| I have never been kneed hard like I have been getting with MT, I have belts in TaiKwonDo and KickBoxing but nothing prepared me for the knee strikes. |
Rich Franklin had the same problem
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Micker 3 thumbs up


Joined: 18 Apr 2007 Posts: 252 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: MT |
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The point is to see how muay thai is for standup fighting. Its not to see if its the best overall complete fighting style. We obviously know that no single style is the best for fighting. In MMA you need to master several different styles to be a complete fighter. Sure Royce Gracie was able to win early UFC matches with just BJJ, but today that wouldn't fly.
The best thing about Muay Thai is its a no BS fighting style. There are no stupid ass katas(who invented these Rickson Gracie awful things??). Its not a no contact point system for fighting. There are no fancy kicks, that look good but never land. Its techniques you can really use in a fight. The kicks are kicks that are the most powerful and high percentage. It even focuses on the clinch game, where many fights end up. In class, at the intermediate level and up, a lot of contact sparing takes place. Its one of, if not the best standup style you can learn for real world fighting. |
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jiujitsunoob 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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We were learning knee strikes from the clinch and I took a moderate strike to my thigh - deep sore bruise for almost 2 weeks.
Can't imagine how devastating a real knee strike would be. |
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Malissa

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:32 am Post subject: |
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Finally someone agrees on the STUPID katas.....I hate them especially in TaiKwonDo they make no sense sometimes because how in the hell will they benefit in a real situation or street fight ...so stupid
That Rich Franklin fight was crazy... his whole nose was rearranged to the perfect imprint of Silva's knee..... Ouch ! |
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bma_mat 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Knees must hurt. Hey, question here. Who here tightens their stomach subconciously moment any strike hits you. Like in school, someone does a fun punch at my stomach, moment the first milimeter hits in, my stomach by itself tightens up 100%. Just natural reaction for my body. don't even need to see the punch coming, unless it's an extremly fast penetrating punch. |
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bma_mat 3 thumbs up


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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:49 am Post subject: |
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| Finally someone agrees on the STUPID katas |
Who here disagrees with you lol? Noone HERE thinks that katas are usefull. |
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Malissa

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Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: |
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| I had to mentally train myself to do that, I guess because I am a woman we are not the best with the mid section tuffness so we have to literally train our bodies to adapt ,its not the same as a man to me. |
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