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Tactics beat technique

I was listing to a podcast yesterday ( http://bjjbrick.com/ ) and the guest was Neil Melanson who ( I gather ) is a fairly accomplished MMA grappling coach. I think he used to work with Randy Couture among others. Neil made this statement that tactics beat techniques. I'm just wondering how ya'll feel about that. 

I can see how tactics can beat techniques I'm just not sure how much better your tactical game plan has to be to beat better technique. 

Would you say grapplers like the Miyao brothers achieved based more on technical mastery or tactical mastery? 

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  • bma_matbma_mat Posts: 11,964
    Miyao brothers have great tactics and technique.

    When I rolled with Miyao at purple, i was down on points, and was in his guard.  I tried pulling him on top (giving him the sweep) to try and submit him from the bottom (no way i could pass that gaurd).  His coaches were screaming "don't sweep, stay on the bottom", and he wouldn't stand up.
  • Tyharris14Tyharris14 Posts: 3,418
    Melanson does coach a ton of high level fighters. I think his use of tactics would be more accurately called strategy. Honestly I think strategy and game plans are more relevant and important in MMA than BJJ. In MMA, I think that holds true, but in BJJ strategy isn't as important. I think in MMA because there are more distinct phases it's easier to strategize to stay in or out of certain phases, whereas in BJJ it's much harder to say, "okay, I'm only going to play guard", and win using that strategy.

    Although, a big part of that is likely because MMA is against a specific opponent, BJJ is usually a tournament, and because of that, there's specific opponent studying in MMA, not so much in BJJ. Regardless, the point stands.
  • jackjitsujackjitsu Posts: 19,353
    Yes and No. Its a pretty wishy washy statement.


  • jthomas1600jthomas1600 Posts: 555
    Part of Melanson's justification for this statement was his own experience having submitted other grapplers many times during competitive rolls who were (in his words) much better grapplers than him. His assertion is that he is a submission specialist--he has what you could say is a somewhat limited game, but he's very good at it. 

    I agree that that tournament's are harder to win with tactics (or strategy) because you face multiple opponents with different games and you can't be sure which competitors you will face. However, some guys just seem to be able to force their strategy on the opponent no matter who it is. 
  • Tyharris14Tyharris14 Posts: 3,418
    There are a lot of guys in MMA that are submission specialists without great fundamentals in between, I think no gi and especially MMA encourages that, they might catch better grapplers sometimes, but in my opinion it's less consistent and reliable.
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